Long before Gaston Glock stopped building curtain rods and moved on to polymer pistolsthe Austrian firm of Steyr was producing innovative handgun designs. One of their most curious and downright oddball offerings was their Model The Austria of today is a small country about the size of Maine. The Austria of however was much different. With a population of more than million people, it was the center of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and included almost half of central Europe including what we know today as Hungary, the Czech.
Republic, Slovenia, Croatia, Slovakia, and of course, Austria. This polyglot country had a large army of more than a million men when mobilized. Poorly led but massive in size and brilliantly equipped, the Austrian army used some of the best small arms, machine guns, and field artillery of the time. Inthe regular Army was equipped with the striker-fired 8mm M Roth-Steyr.
To arm the Austrian Landwehra form of National Guard, the government of the Kaiser they had one tooneeded a new and modern pistol. While the regulars had a new handgun, the reservists of the Landwher still had to make due with old Gasser revolvers. With war in the neighboring Balkans and a looming crisis with Tsarist Russia, the time for an upgrade was at hand. Krnka had been the brains behind the M Roth-Steyr and borrowed certain elements for his new pistol from that gun. Both guns are large frame semi-automatics that have a fixed magazine instead of the now-universal detachable magazine.
To reload the Steyr you feed an 8-shot single stack stripper clip yes, cliplike the common military rifles of the day, through the top of the action. Besides the obvious benefit of not having a magazine to lose, loading followed the same principal that was taught when reloading the standard Army rifle, which streamlined training. Instead of the striker-fired, locked-breech action of his earlier design, Krnka and company used a more conventional external hammer. The used a rotating bolt, similar to the Beretta PX4 of today, that cammed over a degree revolution to eject and chamber rounds.
This made the pistol remarkably reliable. Meant to replace large-bore Gasser revolvers, the BFRs of the 19th centurythe new Steyr needed to bring a brute of a bullet with it. Similar in size to the 9mm Largo and the. With a large milled steel frame, and very few moving parts, the big Steyr was a durable brute. Due to this beefy construction, it tipped the scales at almost ounces, unloaded.
It had a 5-inch barrel, which contributed to an overall length of 8. Ergonomically, this produced a very distinctive feel and look; the Steyr rather looks like the design Picasso would create if tasked to sketch a Colt.
The fact that the takedown for fieldstripping is located at the end of the slide near the muzzle further confuses the design. Compared to the other European pistols of the Great War, with the possible exception of the British. It soon proved superior in the harsh mountain and trench fighting against the Russians, Serbs, and Italians. Austrian Stormtroopers, The soldier on the far left sports a Steyr MComments characters remaining.
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Steyr Model 1917
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The M was originally chambered for the 9mm Steyr round. The M was developed as the Modela military pistol, but it was not accepted into service until as the M Orders were also placed by Chile and Romania.
Germany also placed an order for 10, Model 12s. After World War I, a commercial model the Steyr M was produced and was quite popular with army officers, but Steyr had to rely on foreign exports to sustain production. After Germany annexed Austria inthe Wehrmacht ordered 60, M pistols rechambered to 9mm Parabellum which remained in service until the end of World War II.
The Steyr M handgun is operated by a system of short recoilthe barrel unlocking from the slide by rotation. The recoil spring is now free to return its stored energy to the cycle of the weapon by beginning to return the slide forward.
As the return spring returns the slide forward, the breech face strips a round from the magazine into the chamber and the locking system engages the barrel and locks it with the slide in the battery position.
A safety lever on the left side of the frame can be engaged by turning it into a notch on the slide to immobilize the slide. A disconnector system will also prevent the weapon from firing until the whole action is fully closed. Although the magazine is situated in the grip, it is integral with the weapon and is loaded from above using eight-round stripper clips. The metal strip is then discarded.
As with the majority of pistols with integral magazines, a lever can be used to disengage the magazine catch in order to eject the magazine load.
After Germany annexed Austria inthe Wehrmacht ordered 60, M pistols rechambered in 9mm Parabellum which remained in service until the end of World War II. Pistols in Wehrmacht service were distinguished by the Wehrmachtadler "Wehrmacht Eagle" emblem above the trigger and most noticeably a "P" or "08" stamp on the left side of the slide, "to show that they chambered German type ammunition.
It weighed about 2. Introduced init is considered the world's first machine pistol. This variant did see usage by SS police during the occupation of Austria. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Redirected from Steyr M Semi-automatic pistol. This article is about the pistol.
For the rifle, see Steyr Model Mauser.Remember Me? What's New? Forum Gunboards. Results 1 to 6 of 6. It is an enclosed magazine design, fed by an 8-round stripper clip, and chambered in 9mm Steyr 9X23mm. A small number were produced as a machine pistol with an extended mag and shoulder stock, designated as the Model Some post-war M pistols were also assembled from existing parts. Inter-war, the pistols were chiefly utilized by police and home guard units. Following the March German annexation of Austria Anschlussa number of Steyr-Hahn M pistols were converted from 9mm Steyr to 9mm parabellum 9X19mm in order to supplement sidearm inventories and to standardize calibers for the Axis Powers Police.
The numbers '08' were stamped on the left side of the slide in order to quickly identify the caliber as the same for the P. The Eagle over L German Police acceptance was stamped on the right side slide. While it is known that the newly refinished boxed-magazine and stripper clip-fed designed pistols were issued to the Police, there are conflicting reports of the total number of conversions and the location at which the work was completed.
Some sources cite as many as 62, units were contracted for conversion at Mauser Oberndorf, through Others indicate that the new barrels were manufactured at Steyr Arsenal in Austria, and as few as 12, to 14, produced. The 9X19 barrels, as well as the right side slides, were marked with the Eagle over N commercial nitro proof stamps.
Converted barrels were stamped to match the existing numbers on the pistol frames and slides. I won't offer an opinion as to where or how many were converted, but can only offer the observation that these examples seldomly surface - a possible indication that far fewer than 60, were made or survived the war. Though not rare, they could be classified as scarce, today. Following the rework, the pistols were issued to police forces in both Germany and Austria. My particular pistol displays marks for the possibility of at least three issued purposes.
It was originally built at Steyr in with the K-arsenal identification stamps on many parts. As my last block, Z-suffix serial numbered gun was completed shortly after the Armistice, it is missing the usual Austrian Army acceptance mark of Wn-Eagle-xx dates, on the right trigger guard.
Austro-Hungarian Steyr Hahn M1911 Pistol
The initials of 'LGK. Later, it was accepted to the Austrian Military Administration Heeresverwaltung inas shown by the HV-Eagle on the right trigger guard. The final issuance went to either the German or Austrian Police as previously described.
There is typical edge wear and finish thinning, most notably on the grip straps. Bore is still shiny and sharp. Grips show some handling wear on the diamond points of the checkering, but no chips or cracks.
It came to my possession in a rather nice, vintage sheep skin carrying case of unknown maker likely stateside? As always folks, thanks for looking. Join Date Dec Posts 2, Neat gun with a desirable 08 conversion. GREAT photos! Thanks for sharing. I have one of the Austrian WWI issue pieces, but keep my eyes peeled for the 08 conversion.This well-known pistol is believed to have been designed by Karel Krnka on the basis of the Roth-Steyr A conventional full-slide contains the barrel, the components being locked together by two lugs on top of the barrel engaging recesses in the slide.
The barrel is held in the frame by a helical lug beneath the breech, which engages a groove in the frame. This disengages the top lugs from the slide and, as they do so, a fourth lug under the barrel strikes a transom in the frame and brings the barrel to a stop.
The slide continues moving back, extracting the empty case and cocking the external hammer, then returns to chamber a fresh cartridge from the magazine. Barrel and slide then move forward and the helical lug rotates the barrel back into engagement with the slide. The magazine, integral in the butt, is loaded by pulling back the slide to open the action, inserting a charger and forcing the cartridges downward.
A quick-release catch allows the contents to be ejected through the open action. The pistol chambered a powerful 9mm round specially developed for it, which has since become known as '9mm Steyr'. The dimensions almost duplicate the Bergmann-Bayard, but the Steyr round usually has a steel-jacketed bullet with a sharper point than other 9mm types.
Safeties: a A thumb safety somewhat like that on the Colt. Turning this up into its notch in the slide makes the pistol safe. The date may vary between andthough a few pistols were made after the Armistice. An inspector's mark 'Wn' for Wiener-Neustadt, a Habsburg eagle and a two-digit date will be found on the frame recess immediately above the trigger-guard.
Most Steyr manufactured parts are stamped with a 'K' Kontroll inspection stamp. The 'S' stands for 'Scarfe patrone'. The example on the left had a 'Wn' mark overstamped with an 'Hv' mark.
The initial Steyr commercial marking on the left side of the slide above the grip. Commercial pistols were serialized on the frame, slide, hilt and barrel. Romanian Contract examples have a large crown above 'Md. Numerous pistols can be found with their markings ground off and blued over. The bird-like stamp is a proofmark on the Romanian Contract pistols.We have another video to post today — this time about the Steyr handgun, aka the Steyr-Hahn.
We have one in the Reference Collection that we are going to disassemble and discuss, so please join in:. We are happy to announce that we have added Berger Bullets as one of the official sponsors of Forgotten Weapons.
Berger makes an excellent lineup of match-grade bullets for competition, hunting, and tactical use. They […]. Every pile of dusty old books you find at a gun show has a zillion reprints of Cartridges of the World and how-to pamphlets on stock refinishing from Thanks again for a very good simple, short, well edited video of this very interesting gun. I would have thought that the extra 4 mm case lenght and extra powder would make it more powerful than the 9 mm para.
I know the 9 para has gotten a lot more powerfull through the decades, but I presume you compare a 9 mm para with a 9 mm Steyr? The extra length of the 9mm Steyr could potentially allow it a greater muzzle velocity, if it were loaded with more powder. But it also allows the round to have the same velocity as 9mm Luger with lower pressure greater case volume equals lower pressure, all else being equaland lower pressure means less wear and tear on the gun.
I see a range of numbers thrown around on the net when discussing these cartridges. Excellent Video on a very interesting and rare gun!!! I think it had a version with extended mag also blind!? Yes, there was a full-auto variant made with a round magazine and shoulder stock, and you could also get a stock to fit the standard pistol.
It would be very interesting if you show full automatic version of this pistol, I know it got more longer magazine plus stock. Full auto version of Steyr pistol have selector plus 3 additional parts…. Well, Funny to say we not even seen anything on Webley,Luger,Mauser and Walther yet those are also capable shoot full automaticly models like Luger Artillery ,Mauser Schnellfeuer,dont know if walther made such of prototypes but it possible.
Science Walther facility was destroyed by Alied bombings not many details was left on every single firearm prototype and blueprints was reconstructed from existed models.
Heh — if I ever get my hands on one of the machine pistol variants, I will certainly post photos at the very least. First off, nice video and sweet pistol there. Okay, end of rambling. A disassembly and a firing video of the Mauser M Schnellfeuer or the earlier Spanish ones would be awesome! Thanks for posting this…this makes me homesick for my Steyr I have found that with my it performs best with maximum loads for standard 9mm Luger and a cast bullet.
I am surprised that this pistole was not improved with a detachable magazine or was it. I shoot better with this one than a Colt For me, the Steyr points better.
Thanks again! Something about this design always appealed to me, despite or perhaps because of it being a bit obsolete even at the time of its introduction. I have a Steyr with stamped on the side.
I would like to know if the Steyr 9mm is the only cartridge this pistol will shoot or are there any alternatives? Some of them were converted to 9mm Parabellum by the Nazis for police use, and I greatly regret that I lost the auction for the last one of those I saw for sale.
Or rather, I suppose the other 9x23mm rounds 9mm Largo. I have Steyr handgun that is in really good condition. The serial number is o. My question is: can I use 9 mm Lugar rounds in this pistol in lieu of the Steyr 9 mm rounds.
Steyr M1912 pistol
The video is very well done B.Remember Me? What's New? Forum Gunboards. Results 1 to 43 of Thread: Steyr Hahn. Won Steyr Hahn 9mm on an auction. The sn E. I have 2 questions what does the E after Sn mean and the second question is they come with plastic grips.
Grips are strictly wood. The pistol's name is M. Note the Austrians called the hammer a "hammer" drawing belownot "hahn" - so why would the pistol be called Steyr Hahn? The Austrians never referred to it that way. Attached Thumbnails. I read somewhere that the letter behind the sn could tell if the gun was a contract gun. I guess I will have to do some research on this gun. Do you know a person could buy a set of wooden grips? Sponsored Links Remove Advertisements. Originally Posted by Leed Don't have gun yet.
Should be here this week. The pic. I can make out the sn and on the slide in front of sn it looks like something was removed and reblued. Join Date Dec Posts 10, Plastic grips would be a new one.